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Old September 16 2013, 01:52 AM   #32
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Re: Vegetarians - you will ove this child

Locutus of Bored wrote: View Post
I always love when people get so defensive about vegetarians and vegans as if there's any possibility of them forcing you not to eat meat any time in the near future. MLB has to relentlessly beat their philosophy into the ground in every second post like he thinks the "meat is murder" stormtroopers could come kicking down his door at any moment, even though no one is pushing anything on him. I feel like asking him to point to the spot on the cucumber where the vegetarian touched him.

Yeah, some of the more fanatical ones who criticize or attack people who eat meat can be obnoxious, just as zealots of any type can be, but the people who go over the top deriding vegetarians and vegans in general are just as irritating. They're not a threat to your way of life. They're a mild nuisance, at worst, and have no chance of denying you your right to eat bacon anytime soon. Relax.
Seriously, this shit gets so annoying. My sisters are both vegans, and my older sister is raising my nephews vegan; the shit they get is unbelievable! Sure, extremists like PETA deserve most of the flak they get, but I find the hypocrisy of those who scoff at vegetarianism even more obnoxious. Why on earth do people become morally outraged over another's choice not to eat meat? In my experience living with vegans it is far more common for meat-eaters to harass and pressure vegans and vegetarians about their dietary choices than the other way around.

Personally, I do eat meat, because it's fucking delicious. I love steak, I love lobster, I love a surf and turf dinner. But I eat it only very rarely, because it is not very healthy (and don't give me shit about how we need meat to be healthy: vegetarians have a longer life-expectancy and lower rates of cardiovascular disease and cancer than meat-eaters, and the rates are directly correlated to how much meat people eat) it's expensive, and there are legit environmental/economical reasons not to eat it -- though to be honest, I don't care about those as much as I probably should. I don't think it is wrong to eat meat, but that doesn't mean I can't understand why people like Relayer, and my sisters do. My younger sister takes veganism very seriously. She does not use any product that comes from an animal; this includes honey and wearing pearls. This may seem extreme to some, but it makes sense given her morals: she believes that exploiting animals for any purpose is wrong, whether or not the animal suffers for that exploitation.

The way I see it, the moral line here is completely fucking arbitrary. Animals in the wild suffer horrible deaths to become food for other animals. Does this mean it is morally right for them to suffer to become our food? Or is it morally right for us to kill them with as little suffering as possible, because we can? Or is it morally right to refrain from killing them altogether, assuming we have the luxury of living without exploiting animals? Everyone draws their line where thy will, and I don't see why it's anyone else's business.

I think it all comes back to the fucking Diet Police: everyone thinks they know best how other people should eat. Well, that's stupid as hell. Don't you have more important things to be angry about than Relayer choosing the seitan bacon over the dead pig?

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