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Old September 11 2013, 01:11 PM   #680
Bad Thoughts
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Re: Why do people keep saying Voyager weakened the Borg?

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Which would be a contradiction of what Hugh says in I, Borg. He talks about the voices (plural) of his brethren that he hears. They are not centered or centralized. They are collected. Indeed, that is in essence what was observed in previous episodes, that the strength of the borg was in not having any sort of centralization.
Again, not quite getting it. There is no centralization. Where is your consciousness centralized? See Borg drones as brain neurons communicating with each other. The grand result of that collective communication is one individual consciousness ("The Borg"), just like the interaction of all your brain cells results in one individual consciousness ("You").
Not sure if that works best, because if you shoot a bullet through a guy's brain it'll usually kill all of him. If you kill a bunch of Borg Drones I don't think that would result in a Cube's destruction.
The problem is that "hive" can be used euphemistically to describe numerous types of group interactions and decision making processes that it can differ greatly from the behavior of hive-based insects. Do the Borg literally live like bees, having their instincts written such that the objectives of the hive can't be affected by the input of individuals? the suggestion is that clearly in cannot be. On the other hand, Hugh's revelations about multiple voices makes it seem that the Borg cannot completely overwrite individual consciousness, perhaps integrating it and harmonizing it with the whole instead. Hugh's "On a Borg ship we live with the thoughts of the others in our minds. Thousands of voices with us always" stands in contradiction to the queen's "One order, one voice." There is a distinction between groupthink and a hive mind.
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