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Old September 10 2013, 06:42 AM   #37
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Re: Yesterday's Enterprise: How is the Federation Losing So Badly?

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Some great analysis here. Sorry to get off track, but something occurred to me after reading this.

So far it seems we are assuming that the Federation is only lost territory/space/planets to the Klingons through capture and occupation. I think it is important to consider that possibility that some of the planets or members of the Federation defected to the Klingons. War is arguably just as much about cutting off the enemy's supply lines as it is about battle tactics and firepower. I see no reason this couldn't hold true here.

We know from the Genesis Proposal in TWOK that the federation anticipated difficulty meeting the needs for a growing population. Since Genesis failed, it is likely that this would have become a problem, if it wasn't already. And entering into a full scale war would further tax resources.

We have seen the Klingons attempt to "court" planets that the Federation was attempting to negotiate mining rights with in TOS: Friday's Child. Once the Federation is unable to dedicate as many resources to support their colonies and members as a result of war, Klingons could quickly step in and offer compelling reasons for them to switch sides. Though the Klingons may not be as resource rich, they are very permissible to things that the Federation forbids. Such as the use of Orion slaves. Though abhorrent, if a colony is short on resources and faces starvation, the possibility of using slave labor to mine resources for trade and build infrastructure would start to become compelling.
I hadn't thought of this before, but this too is an excellent point. The TOS pattern of cold-to-hot war with the Klingons over potential allies fits the situation here, but there's also the fact that some previous allies -- the Elaasians in particular -- are liable to switch sides if they think the Klingons are the stronger party or prefer like the way Klingons do business.

Adding to the already scaled back military from the Khitomer Accords
See above. The "scaling back" is a dubious proposition considering all the OTHER shit Starfleet has to deal with, especially by the 2360s when the Cardassians have been lurking around for decades already. The newer ships built during/after the Khitomer accords are considerably more powerful, both tactically and systematically, than the pre-khitomer vessels they replaced.

Of course, this basically goes against the assertions that there is no scarcity or poverty in the 24th century.
There's no scarcity or poverty on EARTH. It very much exists pretty much everywhere else.
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