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Old September 9 2013, 07:42 PM   #668
Bad Thoughts
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Re: Why do people keep saying Voyager weakened the Borg?

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NuBSG had cheats that VOY didn't have:

1) They never had to restock weapons after the first episode. No one complained. Yet everyone complains over VOY having torpedoes.

2) They could make new Vipers, but folks couldn't believe VOY could make new shuttles.

3) They had a big fleet in VOY to pull new crewmembers or characters out of nowhere, yet when VOY tried to make recurring characters everyone complained they shouldn't have any.

4) NuBSG's damage was all window dressing, it never impacted the core working of the ship, it was just scars on the outer hull.

As for Voyager in "Year of Hell", they only had the money to make the changes for that story. It wasn't sustainable beyond that instance. That's why they reset it all. That and the network saying no to continuing it.

See, the premise included a bit about how they could never have any support at all. They'd NEED support to keep the ship running. So they shot themselves in the foot because if they'd sustained the damage from "Year of Hell" they'd never be able to fix it and the show would be over.
1.>Yes but unlike VOY, nuBSG never said something along the lines of "We only have 38 photon torpedeos with no way to replace them"

2.>I seem to recall them mentioning that building the Blackbird was a major achievment and the first new fighter they had build. Pegasus was stated as having the ability to manufacture Vipers.

3.>Not sure what you mean, people gerenally complain that they didn't have enough recurring characters along the lines of Carey.

4.>A battle scared hull was better than seemingly no damage at all, and besides in the final season it was made clear that structuraly due to all the hyperspace jumps and battle inflicting damage the Galactica wasn't in great shape.
If I am not mistaken, the process of supplying and repairing Galactica was a constant plot point--it was certainly not avoided. Some of the concerns are easy to address: only one Blackbird was ever built, out of spare parts, no less; a new supply of Vipers was found, but at no small cost--conflict with the crew of Pegasus; nukes were never extensively used by Galactica, whose primary battle role was to provide cover for the retreating fleet. Finding food, water and living space carried over into several episodes, grinding the fleet to a halt and exposing it to attack. Every attempt to repair and resupply the ship was a trade-off.

Of course, that doesn't mean Ronald Moore is above criticism. At times he's the king of no-splainin' (where was Kara?). However, this was a matter that was addressed extensively, allowing us to criticize its believability. Voyager usually left us in the dark about this.
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