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Old September 3 2013, 09:09 PM   #93
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Re: If they made a 25th century TV series, would you watch it?

bbjeg wrote: View Post
You're still speculating. Did you talk to the millions of people?
Speculations based on well-established metrics.

The Batman they are using in Justice League may not tie to the Dark Knight, X-men origins: Wolverine had an old Professor X before First Class, and Spiderman and Amazing Spiderman are two different movies. You could even lump Hulk and the Incredible Hulk in that group, the remake made it into Avengers.
But the Batman in MoS2 is still Batman. The Wolverine spin-offs are still Wolverine. They're a kin to would-be stand-alone Kirk movies. Spiderman and Hulk movies are still Spiderman and Hulk. You're making Bill's argument for him.

In all of your examples, you're still limiting yourself to the principle (in a few cases, iconic) characters of whatever franchise. None of these films or their characters have deviated from the core.

Do you honestly believe a Scott Summers/Cyclops stand-alone (origin?) film would be as successful as Logan/Wolverine? Or do you think they would have even bothered with a First Class film had young Xavier & Magneto not been involved?

There hasn't been many examples of films based on non-core characters of a franchise, but they've all failed. Catwoman is the only one I can think of off the top of my head, but I know there has been others.

And even if you just look at the Star Trek films themselves, the only non TNG film you could really call a success is FC. And NEM was an absolute bomb, considerably worse than TFF. And if you look at the "adjusted" list, FC falls to number seven--not even in the top half. And that's despite the huge success of TNG.

So the answer is, "yes," as long as Trek remains solely on film, it will remain TOS reboots. There are too many unknowns and proven concerns to try anything else.

As far as television, as much as I'd like for them to deviate into something a bit different, it's just not realistic. If (And it's a big if at this point.) CBS tries to do some kind of series, whether it be broadcast, cable, or streaming, it will probably be a TNG reboot or, as I suggested before, a mish-mash of TNG and Phase II set in the nuverse.
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