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Old August 30 2013, 08:24 PM   #45
Timo
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Re: Resigning from Starfleet

]Saavik held the rank of Lt while still a cadet.
Nope, there's no mention of Saavik being a cadet anywhere. Cadets are people who haven't graduated, and Spock's little pupils featured plenty of people who didn't wear the insignia of graduated and commissioned officers.

Kirk apparently did to and was an ensign while in the academy ( and possibly lt based on Mitchells comments)
Kirk held rank at the Academy, but obviously only after graduation. We know he was an instructor there, teaching classes: that's rather more likely to happen after graduation than before it.

Bashir also indicates that he graduated and was sent straight to DS9
No, he says he wanted to get to DS9 straight away. We never learn if he was granted that wish.

we know she spent three years at the trill academy thing and apparently did not leave much, and she was reaccepted. sounds like she was stuck on Trill.
This would all happen after she had graduated, assuming she enrolled at 18.

I think the implication is that McCoy is already a doctor, so does not have to go through medical training just Starfleet training
Yup, that much is clearly implied. But the thing I'm concerned about here is that this is the only verified case where training at the Academy is immediately followed by promotion to LtCmdr rank. With all the other hero doctors, medical studies could have come first, Starfleet studies then, or vice versa (or these could have been one and the same thing) - but with Starfleet studies in every example culminating in graduation at Ensign rank.

given he wears a cadet uniform he is still a cadet though
We don't really know the meaning of those uniforms - instructors also wearing them is a distinct possibility (Spock's uniform is color-coded differently, but that's just incomplete statistics ). Uhura was a (senior) Lieutenant, too, despite wearing that uniform and helping out at Kirk's final try at the no-win scenario. Then again, she was also explicitly a Cadet, unlike Saavik. Or then we're just witnessing the effects of the confusing activation of the cadet force in that emergency: the students may have received instant degrees (even Kirk is listed as a junior Lieutenant on computer screens), and even Spock is confused between calling Uhura by her former status or her current rank.

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