What's this thread about again? I think it has skewed far away from what the topic was 3 pages ago =(.
Meaning no disrespect, but why does it matter. Great conversations always move along in strange and wondrous ways. I am a mod on another forum, and an administrator on still another and I never understood that the only conversation on a thread had to relate to the first topic.
I grew up in a family that would talk about anything and everything, even as a kid I was allowed to join in. It's like you hear others quote ever so often, "It isn't the destination, it's the journey." To me every conversation is a journey, you may be informed, humored or even enraged but it's all good.