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Old August 16 2013, 10:02 AM   #83
The Emissary
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back?

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
But when you strip it down, it's basically an adventure drama set in space. You can attach all sorts of other attributes and window dressing to it, but at it's core, that's what it is.
No...that's just the medium that the original Trek set it in. It has always been about the human condition and exploring us - humanity. It is not just some adventure drama set in space.

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
It's actually exactly what I'm talking about--a mix of standalone and multi-episode stories. You said TOS/TNG did that. They did not really do any multi-episode ideas except for the occasional two parter. I'm talking about how it was done in B5, Farscape, or "nuBSG" as you call it. I don't mean an occasional two parter. I mean one episode leading into the next. Not reset buttons every end episode.

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
That's how nuBSG did it, and with a difference being that the mix of standalone and multi-episode stories favored the latter. Otherwise, though, TNG, DS9, VOY, & even ENT all had an overarching story with a beginning and an ending (although in the case of TNG, it's overarching story--the Trial of the Human Race--was something that didn't become clear until its finale; with ENT, it was about Earth's first Warp 5 starship).
Um...yes. That's what I mean. Multi-episode stories...but a lot more than the random two parter. They all had a theme, but each episode did not lead into the other.

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
If that's the criteria you're basing on, then you're going to find that aplenty in every Star Trek series regardless of its setting or premise.
Except the other Trek shows didn't make it a point to say "OMG!!! Our ship is alone and lost in this dangerous unexplored area of space!" The others were business as usual in the Alpha Quadrant. The Delta Quadrant was the same thing.

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
Otherwise, I can't disagree with that more that they were identical.

I would think not being Human would be sufficient.
Um ok?

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post

I don't get this. Were you expecting the space in the Delta Quadrant to be a different color than that in the Alpha Quadrant? Otherwise what makes different territories in space different are the civilizations who live there and what policies they dictate.
The civilizations that lived there looked exactly like anything you'd find in the Alpha Quadrant. That is my point.

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
Sure it is. It's the society they come from.
That is the equivalent of someone walking around my neighborhood and saying "now I understand the society that exists in this state." Them walking around Starfleet HQ or visiting Earth Spacedock is not exposing us to their society.

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
It's not "just." It's showing other aspects of that fictional universe, to see other Starfleet crews and Federation worlds. it is not. The point is that if you are going to show other facets of life in that universe, it can be done better and not solely from the view point of Earth.

The point, which got seriously derailed, is that Earth does not need to be shown for another show. And the old episodic formula has been done to death. Why can't one Trek show go beyond that?
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