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Old August 2 2013, 05:18 PM   #792
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Re: Starship Size Argument™ thread

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I'll focus on the two STID scenes, we see the shuttle entering the shuttlebay and it's right there next to the opening structure of the bay, shadows and all. The ship looks a lot smaller than 725 there...
Not when you consider that for a 725 meter starship, the engineering section would be about 310 meters long -- somewhat smaller than a Nimitz class aircraft carrier. Even less so when you consider that the length from the back of the shuttlebay to the front of the saucer is only about 530 meters; the rest of the ship's length is the engine nacelles.

It's sort of like the skepticism I get when I tell people the International Space Station is over a hundred meters wide. It SEEMS a lot smaller when you're only looking at a small part of it. That's because ISS, like Enterprise, is a very large structure composed of several much smaller ones that are themselves much bigger than they look.

Alcatraz is approximately 1 mile away from the waterfront...
It's actually quite a bit farther than that, depending on the direction you're measuring from.

It's 1 to 1.5 miles away, I've looked it up and cited multiple sources.
1.5 miles is 2.4 kilometers. Which means that the moment Vengeance hit Alcatraz, the tip of its saucer was at least 1800 meters away from the shoreline (possibly farther, depending on its flight path). If the ship is falling through the air at 650 miles per hour (about 300 meters per second) then from the time it hit Alcatraz to the time it hit San Francisco would be a MINIMUM of 5 seconds. Considering both the collision with Alcatraz and the water a moment later would have slowed the ship considerably, then Alcatraz to Frisco would be ten to twelve seconds.

Which is about what happens in the movie.
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