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Old August 1 2013, 01:24 PM   #2043
Brendan Moody
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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

I don't think you can claim Julius Caesar was an effective political (as opposed to military) leader either, for that very reason. Augustus did a rather better job of acquiring the same degree of control without making his power grab so obvious. One can debate, of course, whether Caesar's assassins or Jon's had the more legitimate grievances.
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