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Old July 31 2013, 04:55 PM   #402
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Re: Who likes Spock/Uhura too?

CommishSleer wrote: View Post
To me Star Trek TOS is Kirk and Spock with a sidedish of McCoy. Kirk and Spock and the more the better.
I don't want it to be the Spock and Uhura love story. I don't care if Kirk marries Carol and Spock marries Uhura and they all live happily ever after (except it will be boring) just as long as its not the main theme of the movie.
I do not want ST13 to be a love story with Spock and Uhura the power couple aboard the ship agreeing with each other all the time, telling everyone how wonderful their partner is, dressing the same...
and yet what's this have to do with the comic and I what I have said?
I might be wrong but it doesn't seem to me that the movies are the Spock/Uhura love story
perhaps you're voicing your worries? or maybe exaggerating a bit here...
I feel the writers are doing a good job with S/U, being that a subplot and with star trek not being a franchise about romance.

Orci once said that they always try to balance things out.
Though, to be fair, some reviews had actually lamented that the last movie was too much a Kirk/Spock's show to the expense of all the other characters that deserved more.
So yeah, TOS was like that (and it was like that because those were the 60s too) but this is not TOS. Been there, done that. A reboot should improve some things a bit, maybe for you and other people we should always watch a Kirk/Spock show (more like Kirk's show, tbh), but for others like me it's refreshing to see other dynamics too. It actually helps me perceive their friendship less pretentious and a tad more realistic.

I don't think that necessarily makes me a K/S shipper unless I am subconsciously, hhhmmm.
maybe you're not in the classic sense of the term ("ship" them as a romantic pair) but one doesn't need to be a shipper to have his/her favorites and bias.

Chess rant:
I thought in both TOS and reboot Spock is supposed to be super smart, smarter by magnitudes than anyone else. I think it will be to his character's detriment if they dilute that. By having Uhura or Keenser or McCoy beat him at chess that just turns him into an average sort of person.
but not if the one beating him is Kirk

this makes me remember how some people called Spock OOC for having a girlfriend in the first movie and yet the same people see nothing weird or out of character in the sequel where Spock cries, screams and acts homicidal over someone that 3 minutes ago he didn't consider more than a co-worker.

the Kirk/Spock fans (not necessarily shippers) will justify everything in the name of character development if a scene is between Spock and Kirk but suddenly, magically, the same things would make them scream the writers don't know a thing about canon and vulcans if they happen between Spock and another character.

I don't believe in TOS that Uhura could beat him at chess.
How do you know that? Did you ever watch her play?

She could do other things in TOS better than him. Spock admitted that. Maybe in the reboot she's a lot smarter than Spock.
since when it's a matter of who is smarter? maybe the point is that they're equal.. and anyway I doubt that we can quantify people's smartness over who wins at chess otherwise you should think that tos Kirk was smarter than Spock too.

Jeyl wrote: View Post
it was only used in Into Darkness just to give us another "Spock is just an emotionless robot" that we were supposed to have been done with since the last movie.
....or maybe the purpose was pretty much the opposite.
IDK I have this weird habit to remember all the scenes and not just the ones from the beginning...
I remember that at the beginning it seemed that he was emotionless but then you have the scene where Spock told Uhura that it's not that he doesn't care, the truth is precisely the opposite and that he cares too much and sometimes this is a source of pain for him and he has to choose to not feel (e.g., when he thought he was about to die)

I, for one, was glad to have some continuity and that they didn't pretend that the destruction of vulcan and the death of his mother didn't have any side effect on the guy.
Spock's PTSD is something a lot of people can relate to (e.g., US soldiers, 9/11's survivors)
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