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Old July 30 2013, 05:35 AM   #34
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Re: Star Trek TWOK Blue Ray oddity

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I don't know, but TMP looks a lot better on BluRay than it did on HDTV.
What I think they are saying is that they used the same print transfer for the Blu-ray as the HDTV streaming--NOT that they didn't improve/restore it.

In other words they used the same transfer--although they may have cleaned it up better for the Blu-ray release.
This is essentially correct. Garbage in - Garbage out as they say. The source of all the HD versions out there seem to be the same rather mediocre HD scans done circa 2001.

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What the other folks are saying, I think, is why didn't they go to the orginal camera negatives and make an all-new 4k master?
Yep. I think we'd all love a proper 4k scan of all the movies and real care shown for the dirt and scratch repair, not just a quick and dirty blur (digital noise reduction) across the entire frame.

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So yes, the Blu-ray can look better than the HD streaming version without being the best quality it could be.
It's funny you bring that up. There's a guy over at AVS Forum (a big A/V enthusiast forum if you've never heard of it) that does streaming versions versus DVD versus Blu-ray disc comparisons and he did TWOK.

That's a very cool link, but how did he watch 7 or 8 versions of TWOK and not notice/mention the cyan overload of the Blu-ray?

I mean we knew the Bluray was gonna win that comparison test.
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