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Old July 24 2013, 01:31 PM   #106
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Re: Endgame was awesome!

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He broke the treaty of Algernon and the Prime Directive in Nightingale

A more alert captain would have busted him down to the enlisted ranks.
I don't believe he was acting as a Starfleet office in that case. He was just getting them to their destination. Prime directive wouldnt really apply
He's always a Starfleet officer. Getting these folks home seemed okay. Then it turned out that they were "gunrunners" trying to bust through a blockade and reverse the direction of a wars all but immediately foregone conclusion.

Cloaks aren't weapons!

Bullshit, if I was invisible I could do anything to you and you could't stop me. Invisibility is a gamechanger, and Invisibility with a gun is a winning hand.

Starfleet's non interference policy (which may or may not be the prime directive) says that they cannot get involved in a war they don't already have a horse in.

Harry didn't just get involved a little, he delivered weapons that would prolong the war for YEARS leading to the deaths of further billions until the planet belonging to the other lot is about to fall to the oppression of an unstoppable invisible enemy.

How is that not altering the balance of power?

Those actions undertook by Ensign Kim would also make him responsible for several War crimes as yet uncommitted, and as I said earlier lead to a censure from the Romulans asking why Harry was fiddling with illegal technology he was not allowed to touch or acknowledge the existence of?
there are situations where the prime directive doesn't apply, situations where a warp capable species asked for help fall under that

memory alpha has a lot of info about the prime directive, it was interesting to read, here is the list of situations they have wher the prime directive doesn't apply
The society already knew of and contacted the Federation (e.g., seeking assistance; treaty matters) (TNG: "Datalore", "Deja Q")
The society sent a general distress call to any space-faring cultures who might pick it up (TOS: "Miri"; TNG: "Pen Pals")
A material injustice involving a Federation citizen would occur absent the interference (TNG: "Justice")
Regarding minimal interference, compare the interference by Picard in TNG: "Justice" to the interference by Jameson described in TNG: "Too Short a Season". In both instances Federation citizens were being held in an arguably unjust manner. But Picard's actions were the removal of a single condemned prisoner without loss of life or technology transfer, albeit with the planting of seeds of doubt regarding inflexible laws. Jameson, on the other hand, transferred technology which resulted in decades of war and millions of deaths. Picard's actions were much less intrusive in the Edo society.
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