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Old July 23 2013, 12:29 PM   #729
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Re: Starship Size Argument™ thread

Belz... wrote: View Post
King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post
It reads like one of James Dixon's, but with Okuda as God instead of Franz Jopseph. There is so much wrong with this it's not funny. And Bernd is an engineer? Why doesn't he understand basic perspective?
That second picture was provided by me, actually, back in the day when I wasn't sure the scaling was consistent. I have, obviously, seen the light since then.

Bernd is an nice guy, but he has preconcieved notions about what Trek should be, and he spends way too much time on minutiae, in my opinion.
I saw your name there! Sorry if I was a little harsh.

Killerprise wrote: View Post
The dome on the saucer's top is actually a sensor as is the dome on the bottom of the saucer.
According to the classic movie Enterprise blueprints, yes. But on The Original Series it was a glass dome:

Ditto on The Next Generation's Enteprise-D, which had a small glass dome directly above the captain's chair.
Belz... wrote: View Post
Yeah this blue ring is directly under that dome.
No it's not. How can you possibly say it is ? Look at the picture again, and consider the perspective.
Here is a pic showing what and where that blue thing really is on the bridge set. The 360 panorama taken directly below it completely distorts it's size and shape, it's not the ceiling of the set at all, and it's obviously not under the dome.

Belz wrote:
Star Trek never really produced blueprints of their ships in an official manner, nor were they in the habit of mentioning the size of their ships on-screen; and yet fans always accepted the 289/305 length of the ship/refit as gospel, despite the fact that it didn't come from official sources. Now you have official sources and refuse to accept the length. This isn't about official sources. This is about you not wanting the Enterprise to be that much different from the original.
And willful ignorance, which is a pet peeve of mine (which I think this thread has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt!)

Anyone who thinks all the stuff from THIS BIG PIC would fit into a hull that is 30m across at it's widest point is a few fries short of a Happy Meal. There is absolutely overwhelming evidence that the Enterprise in the new movies is significantly bigger than it's prior incarnations.
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