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Old July 20 2013, 11:13 PM   #10
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Re: shared universe, crossovers and easter eggs

Christopher wrote: View Post
Except the Alphas weren't the result of genetic engineering, but naturally occurring variations that had been cropping up for centuries without being acknowledged. Since there aren't a bunch of Alphas running around in the Trek future, they don't go together.
Hm, I wonder. How do we know that there are none? Around 0.02%...
Given the anti-Augment attitudes, I would expect that any uberhuman would likely try to hide his or hers abilities.

We also do not know the source of superhuman abilities of Star Trek's humans - that we kn ow of like immortality or telepathy (Sky Peole, "Ancient Astronauts", Augmented ancestor, Progenitor design...).

Christopher wrote: View Post
Besides, it's probably hard to find a modern SFTV series that doesn't have characters making references to Star Trek as a fictional series at some point. I don't recall if there were any in Alphas, but I'd be surprised if there weren't.
Who notices? The only one I recall was the First StarGate time travel episode, and I seem to recall something in Fringe, but that is all. By now it is part of the culture. So we may see it as a production mistake, or just plainly ignore - if it is overt. After all we ignore LCARS jokes.

Christopher wrote: View Post
I never bought that, since those two shows are in much more fanciful universes than Alphas. And Lindsay Wagner's Alphas appearance as Dr. Calder took care to avoid any overt references to Eureka, Warehouse 13, or any concepts and characters from those shows. So I prefer to treat her as a separate, coincidentally identical Dr. Vanessa Calder in a separate fictional reality.
To tell the truth, I watched both Alphas and Warehouse 13 only once, so I got this second-hand and still am not sure who she is - I just did not make the connection.
And your approach is quite rational, I use it too (think Ally McBeal/Practice or the Chicago Hope/Picket Fences/X-files... mess).

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The Six Million Dollar Man and The Bionic Woman are interesting candidates, since they show a rather more advanced space program in the '70s than we had in real life, which is consistent with TOS's portrayal of human spaceflight. But then, what happens to that nifty bionics technology? Is it lost in the Eugenics Wars or WWIII? And in that case, can you count the '90s reunion movies?
Given the cost do you wonder? Even in "Bionic-land" in the 90s there was only a handful of Bionic people, so ...
New technologies are always expensive to start with, but the cost tends to go down (at least in proportion to inflation) as the technology matures.[/QUOTE]

So in the 90s there would be the 15 million dollar man? I wonder if that is cost effective.
Also on the other hand given the fear and hate of Augments, in the after Eugenic Wars era they may abandon bionics. Both genetic engineering and bionics create superhuman abilities, so thats why.

Another anti Bionic/Star Trek argument could be the Alien family from Andromeda. Radioactive and Human-anti-resistant.

Although this could be due to the galactic barrier, and we are still 300 years before the Kelvan invasion... But why on Earth did they crash-landed exactly on Earth?

The other 2 alien races I could live with.
The end justifies the means. So do not put canon on a pedestal. We are here to talk Star Trek not only one of its facets.
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