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Old July 19 2013, 03:37 PM   #373
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Re: Scotty and his military comment

Darkwing wrote: View Post
The whole scene was forced and made little sense. Original Kirk would have looked at the "classified" guy and said "He has need to know.
'Original' Kirk was older, wiser and far more level-headed. This Kirk lost his surrogate father and was letting his emotions do the thinking.

Of course, that would either mean forcing the revelation of the absolute stupidity of the new torpedoes early, or Kirk going to Marcus and getting a blistering rebuke, then coming down on Scotty in the out of character heavy-handed fashion we saw. As for the actual comment referred to here, it was offensive. When Picard said it, it was stupid. When Scotty said it, it was gratuitous, and in both cases, it's patently untrue, and reflective of an unrealistic, idiotic world-view that holds the military in contempt with no understanding of what they really do. The scene was obviously a setup to the big reveal, and to get Scotty off the ship.
"These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. Her mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no one has gone before."

Sounds to me like the primary mission of the Enterprise and by extension, Starfleet, is one of galactic exploration. Scotty's complaint, and it was a proper one, was that the Enterprise was being dispatched on a covert mission of aggression.

Just one more hole in the nu universe. Neither movie has made any sense. They do marvelous characterization and dialogue, then throw in nonsense, and string together a few plot points poorly, yet so many people are willing to accept it uncritically.
Sure, that's why this forum is filled with nothing but love and flowers. This film had its plot problems, but they were far less severe than many of the Trek features that came before it.
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