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Old July 15 2013, 09:16 AM   #66
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Re: Daniel Craig and Sam Mendes confirmed for Bond 24

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And in order from poor to bloody dreadful -

The Man With The Golden Gun
The Spy Who Loved Me
Octopussy
A View To A Kill
Moonraker
The Spy Who Loved Me is fucking great.
I thought so at the time - it was probably the first Bond film I saw at the cinema - I was 13 or 14 at the time.

I've seen it several time since and it is obviously the start of Bonds 'ludicrous' phase but, admittedly nowhere near as crap as its follow-up Moonraker.
TSWLM was the start of Bond's ludicrous phase? In many ways I think Dr No was the start of Bond's ludicrous phase, in fact however ridiculous it is to have an oil tanker swallowing submarines and a villain with an underwater base, you have to admit that it's no more (and possibly even less) ridiculous than having a rocket that eats other rockets and a villain with a base inside a hollowed out volcano given that TSWLM is a nominal remake of You Only Live Twice.

People seem to have a blindspot for Connery films though, imagining they were these gritty spy thrillers, when really only From Russia With Love counts. Sure Connery never had anything that reached Moonraker levels of ludicrousness, but take MR out of the equation and are the Connery and Moore films really that dissimilar?

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Really? Quantum were annoyed that their banker stole their money and never paid it back. MI6 stuck their noses in and that's how this all started.
MI6 was after Le Chiffre because he was a terrorist financier. Their involvement spiraled from there, but they can't ignore the existence of an organization that has infiltrated MI6 itself and killed some of their agents.
Yes it is somewhat curious really. Quantum finance terrorism and beyond that they actively attacked MI6, and you can't even argue that it was because MI6 went after Le Chiffre given that clearly Quantum had already infiltrated (at least) the British treasury with Vesper.

Quantum are an enemy state as surely as Red China or the Soviets were, or SPECTRE ever was. The only difference is that they had a scheme more grounded in the real world.

Add to this the fact that they made it personal with what they did to Vesper and by trying to kill M.
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