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Old July 1 2013, 02:41 AM   #593
marksound
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Re: Roddenberry's Worst Ideas

T'Girl wrote: View Post
Charles Phipps wrote: View Post
The problem is, we have plenty of examples this flat out is not true in RL from people who are rich yet continue to work ...
Work for free? Some might volunteer their efforts for a charity, but when they work, they're still being paid aren't they?

... and people who are taken care of by socialist governments yet continue to work.
Again, are these people you speak of working at employment with no compensation?

Not hobbies, not volunteering, actual jobs.

Okay, I just now responded. Your turn.

If it was society that was providing his food in the first place, maybe they would be cut back to good basic (really basic) nutritious food and clean water only. If they wish more than that, they can obtain employment somewhere.

Evict him from his home?
If it's his house? Not simply for not working, although in time he might lose it, mortgage and taxes.

On the other hand, if the house was being provided to him in exchange for the work he is now no longer performing, then a bed down at the local shelter can be allocated to him until he reacquires another job.

If he is not contributing, is his life worth supporting?
A minimum social safety net is reasonable, but it should never be so comfortable that people would desire to remain on it.

You stopped before the last part, which is inevitable in a "progressive" society. It has been proposed before. It has been done before. It will be done again unless we are aware of it and prevent it. I see the attitude here in these fora, just in discussion about a freaking tv/movie franchise. Read what people post, and tell me it isn't so.

Charles Phipps wrote: View Post
Work for free? Some might volunteer their efforts for a charity, but when they work, they're still being paid aren't they?
At a charity?

No.

Again, are these people you speak of working at employment with no compensation?

Not hobbies, not volunteering, actual jobs.
Internships.
Unpaid internships are volunteer work programs. People work for no pay in order to gain experience in their desired field so they may enter that field, for pay, with the gained experience.

Recently there have been lawsuits filed by people who have gained experience through unpaid internships who now want to be compensated for that work.

These people apparently place no value on the time spent learning how to work in their field. This will eventually kill the internship opportunities available, since companies won't want to be exposed to possible litigation.

But back to the topic ...
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