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Old July 1 2013, 12:55 AM   #590
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Re: Roddenberry's Worst Ideas

Charles Phipps wrote: View Post
The problem is, we have plenty of examples this flat out is not true in RL from people who are rich yet continue to work ...
Work for free? Some might volunteer their efforts for a charity, but when they work, they're still being paid aren't they?

... and people who are taken care of by socialist governments yet continue to work.
Again, are these people you speak of working at employment with no compensation?

Not hobbies, not volunteering, actual jobs.

The thing is, many times arguers don't rebuttle these points, they flat out ignore them.
Okay, I just now responded. Your turn.

Carcazoid wrote: View Post
If a person gets lazy and decides he doesn't want to work, would society cut off his food?
If it was society that was providing his food in the first place, maybe they would be cut back to good basic (really basic) nutritious food and clean water only. If they wish more than that, they can obtain employment somewhere.

Evict him from his home?
If it's his house? Not simply for not working, although in time he might lose it, mortgage and taxes.

On the other hand, if the house was being provided to him in exchange for the work he is now no longer performing, then a bed down at the local shelter can be allocated to him until he reacquires another job.

If he is not contributing, is his life worth supporting?
A minimum social safety net is reasonable, but it should never be so comfortable that people would desire to remain on it.

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