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Old June 26 2013, 01:14 AM   #92
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Re: Scotty and his military comment

Crazy Eddie wrote: View Post
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That's more a reflection of ignorant writers than it is any canonical fact.
What's ignorant about it? The writers CONSCIOUSLY chose to depict Starfleet as being something other than a military organization. There are alot of reasons for this, the main one being an attempt to start a conversation about the nature and scope of militarism in civilized society (a conversation that Americans are uniquely uncomfortable having).

OTOH, your position is that it is inconceivable that any organization could participate in combat WITHOUT being a military; it is a possibility of which you are choosing to remain ignorant.
Except that Starfleet is very clearly military. It was depicted as one in TOS. In the other shows it still does everything that militaries of today do. Okay, during TNG Roddenberry was on some utopian hippy high and felt militaries weren't civilized or some such nonsense and therefore declared that Starfleet isn't a military. It doesn't make sense, and totally flies in the face of everything established about Starfleet in TOS. And unfortunately, everyone who has been in power over Trek since, Berman, Braga, and now Abrams have clung to this idea. Ironic, really, since so many of Roddenberry's other ideas were considered disposable, yet Starfleet not being a military seems to be some sort of sacred cow which no one will ever sacrifice.
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