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Old June 18 2013, 04:09 PM   #103
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Re: My thoughts on and gripes with Star Trek Into Darkness

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I don't believe PrimeKirk would have ever entertained obeying Marcus' orders. But that's just my opinion. And as others have pointed out nuKirk isn't as experienced as PrimeKirk but you asked me to put STID in TOS.
Which is, again, entirely beside the point.

Because if the writers had wanted Kirk to be in a situation like that in 1968, he WOULD have. And that's the question being asked here: if Star Trek Into Darkness had been made in 1968 instead of 2013, would it really have been unusual compared to the rest of TOS? Especially bearing in mind episodes like "The Errand of Mercy" and "The Enterprise Incident," I think it would have been received as unusually good.

I don't believe Kirk ever allowed himself to be used successfully as a hostage.
My emphasis. To paraphrase Spock, "And since he was not used successfully in this case your record remains untarnished."

Now for Stargate. I really think thought that the series (not the movie) was a bit too silly for me. Maybe its just too sophisticated and I didn't realise.
It's not. Not at all. But it's still measurably deeper than TOS.
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