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Old June 9 2013, 08:36 PM   #69
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Re: concept art and set photos!

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Well, for me, I think there is a difference between what Pixar does and what the people for the Star Trek films do. People at Pixar for their latest film, Brave, went to Scotland and studied the architecture of castles. I get the feeling that the people involved in these ST filmes didn't study the architecture of ships. I am looking at the pictures of the interior of bridges, especially warships, and those bridges are not overwhelmingly white. They are lit enough for the people to work in and for them to read the consoles. And, i feel there is a disconnect between the futuristic look of the bridge, sickbay, and corridors and the engineering sets. They feel to me like two different worlds - I don't see the transition between the two.

From having watched documentaries on ships, I know that if you are going to have pipes in engineering that you going to have pipes in other parts of the ships. (Just to cite one example.) if the designers had taken some of the design ideas from TOS, such as piping in the corridors, and exposed machinery, than I might buy the idea that engineering looks like a throwback to a 20th century facility.
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Yes, I do, for I think the current bridge would be unworkable for anyone over a long period of time. And, the use of white as a visual metaphor for futuristic technology is not new - it has been used for decades. For instance, the interiors of the station and Discovery in 2001.

As for the interactive screens, I suppose over time that the user becomes accustomed to them. As a first time user, they seem cluttered.
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The Titanic was a passenger liner, not a ship of exploration. I would think the expectations of passengers, especially the well-heeled, would be different from the crew. And I would think the crew of an explorer ship would be expecting their ship to be designed differently from a passenger liner. Form matches function.
You know what the dominant color on most research vessels is? White. And even when in combination with other colors, white is almost always present.

You know what a lot (if not most) bridges on research vessels look like? White with interactive screens, clean lines, and not a bunch of piping everywhere.



You know what engine rooms on research vessels look like? Big mass of piping, machinery, turbines, generators, catwalks and railings.



So, if they "studied the architecture" of modern exploratory vessels, which you mentioned as a good source of inspiration, then I think they did a pretty damn good job of getting the basic appearance down.

Also, you invalidated your own point with your answer to Belz's question:

You expect them to go to the future and get inspiration from space navies for their designs?
Yes, I do, for I think the current bridge would be unworkable for anyone over a long period of time. And, the use of white as a visual metaphor for futuristic technology is not new - it has been used for decades. For instance, the interiors of the station and Discovery in 2001.
You say you want them to get inspiration from other futuristic spacecraft, and then say it's been used as a visual metaphor for futuristic technology for decades. So, uh, what's the problem then? It would seem as if they did exactly what you wanted them to.

You mention the Discovery in 2001, but also contrast the crew spaces versus the engineering and working spaces aboard the Nostromo and Sulaco in Alien and Aliens, respectively. The crew corridors, medbay, cryosleep chamber, computer center, and mess hall were stark white, while the engineering corridors and spaces were darker, full of piping and machinery, etc.

Also, the Enterprise bridge is not completely white anyway. It has a red floor, blue roof, blue and black displays, grey and black accents, etc.


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