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Old June 9 2013, 08:20 PM   #4139
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Shaka Zulu wrote: View Post
johnjm22 wrote: View Post
Just saw it a few days ago. I was shocked.

I had my qualms with Abram's 2009 Trek, but overall I enjoyed the experience of watching it. STID however, was dull, cliche, and incredibly stupid.

At some point, the movie stops telling a story, and just becomes a mess of various melodrama laden scenes filled with Star Trek references, idiotic plot holes, rehashed sequences and characters that have to constantly explain themselves in order to advance the narrative.

It felt very rushed and slapped together.

Paramount has been trying to force Trek into an action series for the past 23 years. Its sorta worked twice; this wasn't one of them.
Here we go again:

J. Allen wrote: View Post
(TMP) Somewhat cerebral. Mostly a 2001 knockoff. Illia in a ridiculously short skirt.
TWOK) Revenge. Explosions. Getting old. KHAAAAAAAN! A FUCK TON of Pew!Pew!
TSFS) GE-NE-SIS?! Kirk's son killed. Get out! Get out of there! Lots of Pew!Pew!
TVH) They are not the hell your whales. One damn minute, Admiral.
TFF) Three boobed cat stripper. Sha-ka-ree. Lots of Pew!Pew!
TUC) Racism. Cold War. Shakespeare. Lots of Pew!Pew!
GEN) Fantasy land. Duras Sisters. Enterprise go Boom. Lots of Pew!Pew!
FC) BOOM! Sweaty Borg. Sexual healing. Drunks. A METRIC FUCK TON of Pew!Pew!
INS) Face lift. Forced relocation. F. Murray Abraham on a couch. Lots of poorly paced Pew!Pew!
NEM) Dune buggy. Mentally deficient android. Slowly moving doom device. Lots of random Pew!Pew!
To sum this up, Star Trek's been an action-adventure franchise from the first pilot onward. Insinuating anything else is to deny reality.
Yes, Star Trek has always had action sequences. That doesn't mean action was its defining classification characteristic.

Star Trek has primarily been drama/science fiction, with action being secondary.

In an effort to bring in a wider audience, Paramount has been trying to force Trek movies into action flicks for the past 2 decades. It's always felt forced, and rarely worked.

But this is all beside the point. If STID was a good action movie then I'd be fine with it (it's just not my preference). The problem with STID was that it was a bad film regardless of it's genre.
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