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Old June 8 2013, 03:09 PM   #38
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Re: Which Star Trek movie has got the most plot holes? And the least?

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TMP has a HUGE plot hole. A near-god-like living machine, which can digitize entire worlds and star systems and created a near-perfect android duplicate of Illia, never thought to wipe the muck off it's name plate?
That is not a plot hole, as the nameplate muck does not challenge story credibility. Yours is just a complaint.

Wrath of Khan's entire "two dimensional thinking" thing made zero sense, especially if Khan is the genius he's repeatedly said to be.
Being a genius does not make one a master of space battle strategy. Kirk had decades of experience kicking butt in all manner of methods. That allowed to him to see options where Khan only saw wound+hunt=death.


There are also problems with Ceti Alpha VI somehow blowing up, the Reliant somehow not noticing such a massive change in the solar system (did nobody count the planets?).
When was the last time Starfleet was in the area--or paid attention to every natural event? From "Space Seed," we get the impression the system is remote, hence the reason Kirk used it as the location to deposit Khan and his followers.

And why didn't Khan just beam Kirk up for torture and execution
Remember, Kirk offered to beam himself aboard--along with info on Genesis. Once Kirk used that breathing room as a means of attack, with the Enterprise leaving the area, Khan was more interested in mass destruction, with Kirk at the top of the list. Khan's vanity prodded him into wanting to out-captain THE captain in battle, thus his fate was sealed.

the entirely magical Genesis device?
Magical? We have no idea how a terraforming technology will operate in the late 23rd century, so the Genesis device falls under the description of projection, if anything.


Search For Spock is pure Vulcan hocus pocus, with not an ounce of realism or science fiction.
According to..? No one ever said ST was mysticism or religion free, and since Vulcan is an alien culture, you have no position on which to claim there's anything out of the norm for the ST concept.

Not a plot hole in the least.

Spock's ageing just happening to sync up with them arriving and leaving... uh huh
All organic material--the planet, and anything "born" on it was aging rapidly--like the planet.

Again, not a plot hole.

Also, Excelsior spluttering to a halt totally ignoring the laws of physics.
You're kidding--right? This is Star Trek, not NOVA. This is the same ST where never-gonna-happen transporters, warp drive, space stations the size of a small town exist. It is sci-fi, not a physics instruction manual.

Again, no plot hole.

Bored now. But there are more. Lots more. And people like to pretend JJ Abrams' Treks invented plot holes. LOL!

(and I love the old movies too!)
You say you love the old movies, but you capped off your argument with a protective post about the assbrained nuTrek films, which are to classic ST what the Star Wars prequels were to the original trilogy: a CG final exam with no heart, or much sense.
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