Edit_XYZ, my main point is that most, if not all the Trek films have holes as do many movies. It's just whether you can forgive them and still enjoy the movie. I loved ID and thought that it was a strong movie with good characters that grow. I understand others do not feel that way and that's ok. But the nuTrek has set up some things that are different from the Prime universe and I am mostly ok with them (except for the brewery and still not loving the ship design itself). I think this is a stronger film than the first because I like the character growth. IDIC is was Trek is about. So I don't expect all fans to like nuTrek or ongoing. I am content to enjoy it.