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Old June 5 2013, 08:03 PM   #335
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

Enterpriserules wrote: View Post
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Failing? When was he failing? He was set to complete his studies a year early. He was just grounded for the whole Kobayashi Maru stunt. If anything, he exceled at the academy. According to some of the material released along side the first film, he was even instructing a combat class.
One can spin doctor it anyway one wishes; an excellent cadet with both 0 experience and serious disciplinary problems getting the flagship ahead of seasoned officers is unrealistic.
Unless, like Pike, you see greatness in Kirk who has proved himself in the last two films to be a savant
The Kirk who let out of his cell a proven murderer/terrorist and then let him near highly sensitive equipment?
That doesn't really scream 'competent'. Quite the contrary.

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You want to talk about unrealistic command assignments in Trek movies? Let's see... how about dropping Admiral Kirk back down to captain and demoting Captain Decker to first officer for the V'Ger mission, rather than just having Admiral Kirk lead the mission with Decker's Enterprise as his flagship? How about giving Kirk & crew their own replacement Enterprise after they committed mutiny, sabotage, violation of restricted space, and the reckless destruction of Starfleet property? How about keeping the same command crew together in the same posts on the same ship (or its replacement) for over a quarter-century even after they've all reached captain's or commander's rank? We've already got plenty of precedent for Starfleet making command assignments in ways that by modern standards are quite capricious and illogical.
It is a matter of degrees. The examples in this quote are hard core realism (and some, taken out of context) by comparison to nuKirk's ascension.
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