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Old June 4 2013, 09:29 PM   #175
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Re: Game of Thrones 3.9 - "The Rains of Castamere" - Rate and discuss

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I think G.R.R. just wanted to shock his viwers/readers. There was so much more he could have done with this characters but just like with Ned, he threw the white flag.
I think you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, but you're welcome to your opinion.

Life doesn't get pretty red bows at the end of a character arc with the plots wrapped up nice and tidy. Choices are made and those choices have consequences. In this world, the consequences are often death.
From GEORGE R.R. MARTIN interview:

Ive said in many interviews that I like my fiction to be unpredictable. I like there to be considerable suspense. I killed Ned in the first book and it shocked a lot of people. I killed Ned because everybody thinks hes the hero and that, sure, hes going to get into trouble, but then hell somehow get out of it. The next predictable thing is to think his eldest son is going to rise up and avenge his father. And everybody is going to expect that. So immediately [killing Robb] became the next thing I had to do.

So as you can see it has nothing to do with life, G.R.R: just likes to be unpredictable and shock his audience.
Ahh yes, very cut and dry there. Clearly he is single-minded in his desire to shock.

Fact is, the story requires Ned to die to set the war in motion, it requires Robb to die for various other developments. This is not their story. At some point he may have thought that these deaths would make for surprising developments in the story and highlighted them for the highest dramatic effect, but that doesn't mean they're the driving force behind the work.

Have you read the books? Have you even read that entire interview? I suspect not.
"There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Maffia." - Winston Niles Rumfoord.
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