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Old May 29 2013, 09:19 PM   #8
Third Nacelle
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Re: A Military Star Fleet and UESPA

Crazyewok wrote: View Post
The Wormhole wrote: View Post
Starfleet is a military. I don't care what Roddenberry said, or what Berman, Braga, and Abrams repeated.
Agree as it makes no sense that Starfleet is not military!
The Wormhole wrote: View Post
As for UESPA, Enterprise's Demons/Terra Prime established Starfleet is a division of UESPA.
Makes more sense if its the other way round as Starfleet is multi species controlled were as UESPA implies its earth controlled even if aliens have some say in it. Plus the head of starfleet does seem to be the top dog military wise. There is no indication that the head of starfleet anwser to anyone other than the Federation counsil and President.
I don't think of Enterprise-era Starfleet as the same organization as TOS+ Starfleet. While Earth Starfleet was subordinate to UESPA, I'm pretty sure after the Federation formed, Starfleet was reorganized into the exploration/science/defense/diplomacy/medical corps of the Federation while UESPA stayed the same, or perhaps loss some importance.
As for Starfleet being military, while I would assume that there are individual ships or perhaps entire branches of Starfleet devoted primarily to defense, that does not make Starfleet as a whole a military organization. Whether it makes sense to you or not, it's been stated on screen by characters and off screen by creators numerous times that it is not military.
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