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Old May 25 2013, 08:16 PM   #123
Norsehound
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Re: Star Trek III - The [Speculation Begins] (Spoilers)

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And the Borg are not really a villain. They're a race; a set piece. And they're primarily known for their association with the next generation. It seems odd to abandon the next generation crew, but then to use their same trappings.
You could argue that they were not a villain originally, and were more like a force of nature, but once they introduced the Queen with her own independent thoughts, emotions, and shortcomings, they did become a villain, or at least were led by one. Hopefully they'll go back to the original force of nature concept if they do decide to reuse them.

While it's true that the Borg are most associated with TNG, VOY comes a close second, with ENT and DS9 bringing up the rear with all of them having Borg appearances. So only the TOS series/TOS-era films & film segments and nuTrek have not had a Borg appearance yet, and even then, there are indirect connections and tie-in materials which have featured the Borg (El Aurian refugees fleeing the Borg on the Ent-B, V'Ger if you go by Roddenberry's hint about the planet of living machines, the Borg technology on the Narada, etc.).

I was burned out with all the Borg appearances before and the way they were defanged, but now that the TNG-era films and series are probably dead, I wouldn't mind at all seeing them get a reboot of their own, especially if they can become the faceless unstoppable menace they were originally.
Speaking for myself I guess, I'm tired of the Borg. I'm tired of them turning up in every game or expanded media effort since Next Generation. They are the go-to antagonists for almost everything in Star Trek nowadays. If you need a large-scale cosmic problem, Blame it on the Borg.

The borg aren't even that interesting or impressive as antagonists. Stiff-bodied drones that either ignore you or take over your body and are lead by a monologue-spouting queen. They have no other character than this portrayal so I find them really boring and one-dimensional. The whole core of their menace is taking you over, being unstoppable, and I guess body horror.

The Klingons on the other hand don't rely on being invincible, body-horror absorption, and have many personalities and faces to make dialogue and characterization interesting. Becuase they're not unstoppable it means their plans are more crafty and interesting than just move in and assimilate. Moreover it doesn't seem like a Magic Bullet is needed to defeat them, and it's not so much of a let down when they are.

The most enjoyable Trek-eras, in my opinion, are ones where this omnicidal cosmic horror are not present or considered in the setting. So I'm hoping we won't run into the Borg, because I think Star Trek is more fun without them in it taking over everything.
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