I think they are both on the same level.
If to you a scene is just the words that are spoken in that moment mean it is ripoff or a knock off then hooray for your opinion.
But for me they are two totally different scenes that only shared visual similarities. The context of both were totally different. I mean you can complain about originality and all that but I don't see anyone moping around complaining that WoK and First Contact were just retelling of Moby Dick in Space (they even reference MD in First Contact outright, and Khan literally spews Captain Ahab dialog) but since that is classy literature it's okay to copy and paste that.