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Old May 21 2013, 08:59 PM   #3398
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Is it any more gratuitous than Sherry Jackson's camel toe in What are Little Girls Made Of? Or any more gratuitous than the cat suits worn by Jeri Ryan or Jolene Blalock?

It amazes me how short some Trek fans memories are.
My memory isn't short. This is not 20 years ago or 10 years ago. This is today, and today, he put a naked body in there for NO PURPOSE than to show her off. It served nothing in the story. I complained about Uhura last time around, and I complain about this as well. It's insulting to the movie franchise that they have to stoop this low. It's insulting to the audience, to women, to her specifically, and it is BAD FILM MAKING. He wasted a shot. He wasted a shot in a 180 million dollar movie. He had themes and characters to build, but no, we need a little T&A. It's the kind of hogwash you find in softcore porn, not a movie that wishes to be taken seriously.
Oh my God. Do people actually read what they post before hitting 'Submit Reply'? Did people bitch and moan about scantily clad women in the first and third Iron Man movies? Did they bitch this much about Scarlett Johansson's skin tight, leather clad get-up in The Avengers? Did they bitch this much about seeing Chris Pine in his underwear in both Trek movies?

Are we this juvenile that we think seeing someone in their underwear somehow demeans them? Besides neither Alice Eve nor Chris Pine have anything I haven't seen before.

"Won't someone please think of the children!!!"

It's, frankly, irritating that we have this cadre of fans who keep saying Trek is this progressive light leading the masses towards the promised land and that J.J. Abrams has somehow perverted it, yet ignoring everything that has taken place in the franchise up to the point he took over.
I never saw Avengers or Iron Man. Talk about jumping to conclusions. No, I haven't seen the films. No, I don't think (and have stated many times in many places) that Star Trek is kind to women, pre-JJ Trek. It's not an excuse to continue the bad tradition.
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