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Old May 20 2013, 11:26 AM   #40
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Re: Have cultural standards gotten lower?

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You bring up some good points, Gov Kodos. I read today where more people are dissatisfied with ill-fitting clothes off the rack, and there is a resurgence of custom clothing design. When you look at the increasing quality of factory production - for example, the cheap replication of handcrafted lace of certain European villages - those long-evolving skills threaten to die out with the older cultures. I have met many people who shrug at that.

They don't know the difference.

They don't know the difference.

That is the problem.

Not that culture "should" be preserved. But that monumental shifts have been occurring in the last few decades that are changing the global economy in ways no one fully understands. (Sorry if this offends the "smart" set).
You know this has been happening since the industrial revolution and alongside it happening people of all ages rediscover and explore old craft skills?

We no longer need those skills to clothe ourselves. Thanks to the efficiency of factories our children no longer go cold because we have no money to buy blankets and they no longer get ill because the couple items they have to wear are germ infested. They no longer have to stay home from school because we can't afford shoes for every one of them, fine made leather shoes hand crafted like all shoes used to be. That was reality not too long ago in the slums of big cities in europe and america.

And despite no longer needing beautiful lace or fine leather shoes or hand spun and woven blankets there has been a never disappearing culture of those who love to learn these old skills and recreate them. Knitting is huge now for instance, but much more specialized things such as hand tooled woodwork are also pursued.

You are wrong that no one understands. People do understand and value old skills and crafts, MANY people have devoted themselves to preserving these skills and teaching others. But people also understand that cheap mass produced goods have inestimably improved the quality of life of those without money.


Nicely put, Teacake. Would that everyone shared your balanced view here.


Moving forward from the industrial revolution to the information revolution of other recently industrialized countries, I wish the Australian economy and others like it the very best of health as global web companies suck the life out of their home economies - literally. Particularly the garment industries, among others.

Also, I'm sorry to say that no, things are not so evenly-keeled as we would like them to be. People elsewhere are in a race to overproduce and drop the bottom out of western markets - where the money is (let's not get ideological if possible). Simply put, the Web has created global free trade with players who a)do not reciprocate free trade, b)actively work toward zero sum economics to the detriment of global economy, c)do not share global good will.

Yes, I can certainly understand intellectually and emotionally the optimistic view of global Web communications. But the fact of the matter is no one knows how these transformations are going to change the world, and I can already say it is not ipso facto "All for the best" (if I may trot out a textbook reference).


By the way, although I've somehow been cast on a side, I'm not actually taking any "sides."
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