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Old September 4 2005, 05:27 PM   #41
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Re: Spoiler whore's thread! (enter at your own ris

Posted by frankncc72405a:
Posted by flamingliberal:
Anyway, I really think that the whole "idiot stupid peaceniks insist on a terribly self-destuctive and trgically naieve course of action" plot is something I probably won't like. It ties into something that has bothered me about Zarak since Colonial Day.

The depiction of so-called "liberals" in this show is really off-putting. They are depicted in both instances as being so blinded by their ideology and docterines that they are incapable of recognizing necessity and pragmatic priorities. In Colonial Day, Zarak's rhetoric regarding the gardener is a perfect example of this: "Why is he still working?" Well, because it's better than standing around with his thumb up his ass waiting to be obliterated, that's why. Why do we still have government? Well, because a society requires certain things in order to function, all the more so when the lives of every individual within that society depend, on and hour-to-hour basis upon the effectiveness of the leadership.

The whole "peacenik" story seems to be an exention of this theme that people whose ideals may not be necessarily comaptble with a changed circumtance, are incapable or recognizing that.

I really don't think we have seen a "peacenik" in Zarek, more of a "Nelson Mandela-gone-haywire" type of opportunistic, anti-establishment character. The "Mandela" tie-in is solely based on his resorting to violence and subsequent imprisonment, so please don't overreact.
His motives are really not for the people but for himself, so that he can lead the people and become the guy in charge.
We saw it best in Home pt1&2 where he is using Roslin's religious interpretation to forward his own agenda. I have not seen this as a liberal or peacenik methodology.
Now, when the storyline concerning the groups that want to make peace with the cylons do show up on screen later this season, we will then truly see how RDM and DE view the "liberal/peacenik" mindset. Until then, hold your fire.

Yeah, but that is how the "real left kook fringe" acts. I was waiting for the Cylon sympathizers to show up on the show. They were on the original series as well. Maybe we will see some old colonial hippies from the First Cylon War show up and start protesting again, to justify what they did back in Colonial College. They will be even more shrill than they were back then. This could be interesting. They could show how out of phase they are with the rest of colonial society in the fleet. They could even have a few whine that they will leave the fleet if Roslin gets elected President for a second term. Oh, and they could have a Lurch like guy running against Roslin chanting "Help is on the way".
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