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Old May 8 2013, 04:16 PM   #210
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Re: 7X11 The Crimson Horror(Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS

Asbo Zaprudder wrote: View Post
Carlisle isn't that grim. It has some interesting ancient buildings and structures, although the civic centre building is pretty hideous.

http://www.discovercarlisle.co.uk/di...-carlisle.aspx
Oh I'm sure it's a great place, a lot of places perceived as grim are actually quite wonderful, but as shorthand goes somewhere like Carlisle still evokes that grim oop North notion.
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