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Old May 4 2013, 07:19 AM   #401
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Re: Roddenberry's Worst Ideas

horatio83 wrote: View Post
I find it interesting to see that lack of knowledge about economics (Greece is not in deep shit because of the welfare state) ...
The elections in the 1980's brought the Panhellenic Socialist Party (PASOK) to power. Under the Panhellenic Socialist Movement, despite economic and taxation problems, the Greek welfare state expanded.

When the PASOK came to power, it enacted the National Health System , services became free. In the 1990's the program changed when the conservative government introduced a small fee to reduce demand.

Very nice, except the government couldn't afford it.

The PASOK government change social security in the 1980s, they increasing the monthly pensions for large portions of the population and introduced pensions and medical benefits for retired farmers. The government needed to subsidize the funds in order for the system to function at all.

All well and good, except the government couldn't afford this either.

Upon joining the Euro, the Greece government went on a spending spree, allowing public sector workers' wages to nearly double over the last decade.

Greece's problem is it's inability to control government spending on public employees and social services (welfare) that it simply can not afford. This is why austerity is being shoved down their throats

... Econ 101 ...
You might want to go back to the people who taught you "Econ 101" and ask for your money back.

horatio83 wrote: View Post
But Offenhouse is not a confident man, he was hysterical, unwilling to listen, accept the new circumstances and adapt to them.
Yet he was able to walk onto the bridge and in a few seconds evaluate an alien species (the first he'd even seen) and correctly ascertain their weakness (they haven't got a clue), their needs (They're hoping you know), and a basic character trait (they're too arrogant to ask).

Hardly the abilities of a "hysterical" man. A far as not listening to Picard, to be honest Offenhouse probably never took Picard very seriously, likely left the ship considering Picard a complete fool. Offenhouse would adapt to the 24th century in time and find his own way.

According to the (non-canon) novels in the year 2379, Ralph Offenhouse was appointed the Federation Secretary of Commerce.

You can hardly be the best doctor if you are motivated by envy or money.
Wrong, what make you a "best doctor" is your abilities, education, and experiences in the medical field. The qualificatios you have in your craft, the skills you bring to your patients.

We never saw any of the five doctors on the shows enjoying a luxurious lifestyle
But we do know for a fact that Beverly did have the financial means to make purchases. McCoy had the financial means to charter a starship.

The EMH was a program inside a computer and realistically did not receive Starfleet pay.

Same with the engineers. Scotty reads tech manuals during his break, the guy is a total workaholic. He loves his job and not some yacht or whatever.
But he still bought a boat, didn't he?

As we already discussed work incentives previously his thread ...
You seemingly are missing that people can enjoy their jobs and still be financially compensated for their efforts. This is why Robert Picard can delight in the making of wine and can also be financially successful in the selling of it. Joseph Sisko can enjoy cooking for his customers and still run his restaurant for a nice profit. Doctors can deeply care for their patients and also receive a hefty salary.

One does not prevent the other.

How much would people like McCoy, Crusher and Bashir make? Well they're not all the same rank, however a US Navy Lt. Commander makes about $70,000 a year, and depending on specialties and board certifications can get bonuses as high as $100,000 to stay in the service. This is far less than a civilian doctor would make.

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