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Old April 2 2013, 09:00 PM   #49
Locutus of Bored
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Re: Defending Admiral Cain from Battlestar Galactica(mentions Dick Che

DalekJim wrote: View Post
Adama would be dead too if it wasn't for constant divine intervention in the guise of citizens in his fleet constantly experiencing visions, having God-messengers in their heads which gave them the word of the almighty, and Starbuck being resurrected as an angel with the knowledge of what to do in order to get to Earth.

Cain had none of this and had to make the tough choices. If God hadn't for some entirely unexplained reason decided to bombard the Galactica with riddles, visions and resurrections then they'd be as dead as Cain. All of them.
Funny, I seem to recall both Galactica and Pegasus winding up in the same place months after the attack on the Colonies, hence the whole drama of her being in charge and combining the fleet. Was God slacking off? God didn't seem to give Galactica much of a head start or advantage.

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That's true, but a lot of Cain's atrocities would have occurred even if she was bombarded with riddles and visions. Raiding civilians, murdering her XO... those things occurred very early on.
And they were done in sight of the greater good. To misquote a very great man, a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the human race.
Were we watching the same show? She wasn't concerned about the safety of the human race, she was concerned about going out in a vengeful blaze of glory. If she was concerned about human survival, she wouldn't have murdered civilians, stolen the parts and personnel they needed to survive, divided families, and abandoned a fleet of civilian ships to be slaughtered. She wouldn't have gotten a third of her crew killed in an obvious trap. She wouldn't execute people simply for refusing to follow a stupid and reckless order of the type which she said she would not give the night before.

Cain made some wrong choices but she was under an insane amount of pressure and for all she knew was protecting the only existing humans. She couldn't afford to be soft.
Oh, she was under pressure? Well, shit, Adama and Roslin weren't under any pressure whatsoever with a fleet of 70+ ships to protect, so that excuses everything, I guess.

She knew she wasn't protecting the only existing humans. You know how I know that she knew that? Because she abandoned a bunch of humans to die.
'First Contact' is the tale of a man who just wants to cash in on his creation so he can get wasted on an island full of naked women, but his fans keep insisting that he's a saintly visionary who has profoundly altered the world. AKA - 'I Don't Want to be a Statue: The Gene Roddenberry Story.'
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