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Old March 28 2013, 06:03 AM   #21
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Re: Brannon Braga on the Borg in Voyager + his thoughts on the show

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And that is what a lot of people assumed, but "what if" Chakotay's withdrawal was due to guilt. What if he was the one that "killed" her. We've seen him lose his father, we've even seen him lose Kathryn in "Before and After," we've seen him get over a lot. Maybe this was something else.
I always figured he somehow caused her death.

Then again in the books he turns into a babbling shell of a man for a few years (?) following Janeway's death that he didn't cause.
And that is just about the worse plot line in "Full Circle," although I think Seven of Nine going crazy is just about as bad in the book.

I don't often agree with Teya, but I do here. I can totally see how the loss of a long time partner is something to get past, but they usually do even though it does change you. I don't think Chakotay would go off the deep end like that.
Yes as I have been saying ad nauseum (well it turns my stomach..) since I read all that post Janeway lit the Chakotay stuff was awful. I'm not a Chakotay fan or a J/C'er and I enjoy my little hobby of trashing him on the internets so having to actually become outraged at his character defilement was really shoves me out of my comfort zone.

He got shafted in those per-resurrection books. They turned him into an emo wreck, dragged it out to ridiculous lengths. His friends trekking through some wilderness to bring him back from his pain cave and he rejects them.. angst pulp.

And yeah the 7 stuff was almost at the same level.
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