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Old March 22 2013, 01:00 AM   #23
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Re: Jedi nerfed in TCW?

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Only when you carefully remove the Order 66 surprise factor which gets in the way of the argument.
Hardly. Yoda was also subject to this surprise, but he survived. Before you say he was tipped off by sensing the death of other Jedi, that same power should have applied to some of the other Jedi as well (since they did not all die at the same moment, and would have felt the disturbance), but it did not. Once again, another inconsistency.

Jukassa wasn't marching into battle with a bunch of clones he trusted at his back. He knew from the moment of his on-screen appearance that they were enemies, just as Obi-Wan and Yoda did when they went to the temple.
Soooo, this suggests the temple Jedi were the most clueless gang in the universe if they watched an army of clones enter the temple, (not to mention Anakin launching his own attack), and still none were able to successfully defend themselves or survive? Every Jedi in the temple? Really?

The adult Jedi inside the temple "fell like mannequins"? You didn't see any such thing.
Yeah, sure, because at 1:22 into the film, Jedi are not doing much other than falling like a mannequin. Trained Jedi--and they were not all younglings, either.

Besides, even in the event that Obi-Wan and Yoda's greater than average skill is somehow unable to be taken into consideration, when it comes to the temple there is still the surprise factor of Order 66 to consider, not to mention the fact that Obi-Wan and Yoda were facing a smaller number of clones.
A fair count comes away with 17 - 20 active clones in that scene. That's not small by any measure.

Then, there's the Jedi speed inconsistency again. Face it: George Lucas just tossed crap into the plot when it suited him, no matter the obvious problems.
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