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Old March 18 2013, 09:50 PM   #80
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Re: Roddenberry's Worst Ideas

Mysterion wrote: View Post
That everyone on the Enterprise in TOS was an officer. Silly. Just damned silly and impractical.
My take on this is Starfleet officers are all "officers," the same way all Police officers are "officers."

Miles O'Brien is a senior NCO, but he is also a Starfleet officer.

yousirname wrote: View Post
Maybe the waiters are trainee chefs? Did we see people cleaning dishes? You'd think there'd be a machine to do that given that even we have dishwashers.
We do see people clearing tables in ten forward (and serving), and we rarely see machines robots. My thought is that these are paid civilian contractors working for Starfleet, likely spouses of Starfleet crewmembers.

sonak wrote: View Post
think of a military, where they rotate whose job it is to clean the latrines or something.
Problem there is that isn't in the least how it works in the military, the lowest ranking enlisted clean the "latrines, and the Navy (iirc) has a janitorial career field. Once you're "made" in the service (E3 or bouts) the only time you touch a communal toilet is with your ass cheeks.

A military is not democratic, but if a system can be worked out there for rotation, I don't see why it's not possible to do it in a post-scarcity, democratic society
If someone refuses to perform in your supposed "post-scarcity" society what happens? Fire them? Strictly speaking they don't work for you. Psychology conditioning? Force? Penial colonies?

RAMA wrote: View Post
As for the OP....Gene's worst ideas ... Transporters: Made the show affordable. But also made it too easy to get out of trouble=plot contrivances to get it not to work.
I think the transporters are fine, as long as they are used solely as a transportation device, move from point A to point B.

Actually technological breakthroughs of the next 30-40 years will probably render capitalism moot, and something like Gene's ideas about evolving past simple monetary gain may be possible
Except that wouldn't be a technological change, it would be a deliberate social and cultural one.

My Name Is Legion wrote: View Post
Arthur C. Clarke was a believer that advancing technology would destroy the utility of money, our current notions of economics and the entire concept of work for pay.
Clarke also wrote that in the future we would breed and slaughter whales as a major part of Humanities food supply. That wacky Clarke.

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The Omega Glory is one of my two hated Star Trek episodes. I think it's pretty good that I only have two out of 700+
The Omega Glory is one of my top ten all time favorite episodes of Trek, all series.
One of my favorites as well, I think it had a lot to say. Star Trek is at it's best when it has a lot to say.

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