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Old March 14 2013, 08:04 PM   #82
Pavonis
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Re: Cardassian society - enforcement or preference?

Sci wrote: View Post
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They were was progressive as they could be in their own time. We are as limited by our sensibilities now as they were then. We all have limits to what we can imagine, even you, Sci. Will we be criticized by future historians for not making social leaps that we aren't facing now and can't even imagine?
I hope so!
Oh, really? Even if future societies have ideals and mores that offend your merely 21st century sensibilities? Are you really that enlightened?

Of course they were telling lies to themselves. Men have always known the full humanity of the women they were oppressing; slavers have always known the full humanity of the people they held in bondage; the wealthy have always known the full humanity of those they kept in poverty. And all have feared their subjects' rebellions throughout history.

Saying you have rule by the people when you're only letting an elite actually rule? That's a lie you're telling yourself. And future societies should recognize that lie.
It's not a lie, as in a deliberate deceit, though. It's a limitation in their view. "All humans are equal" isn't an ancient dictum that all past societies were failing to live up to just because you think they were deliberately being elitist asshats; it's an idea that is far most recent and one past societies hadn't latched on to yet.

You may as well criticize the ancient Athenians for not being vegan as well as for not being ideal democrats.
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