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Old March 14 2013, 03:54 AM   #43
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Re: Thoughts on "Valiant"?

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Curious anything thats not been said.

We all know that The "Captain" Is a wacko.

Any other observations.

I think that Nog got tossed the idiot ball, and holds it till the last 5 minutes, when shoves it at the dieing girl who holds it till the end of the episode.

Just watched it recently. I think you nailed it on the head. I disagree with many of the replies. Nog DID get the 'idiot ball' and dropped it in the last 30 seconds.

I do not know if I would call the captain "wacko" but he definitely lost touch. I do not know ALL of the Starfleet protocols, but I am sure he broke many.

This brings me to my quesion, would they have had time/ablity to download the intel on the vessel in the escape pods? Does this thing happen automatically? Would Starfleet allow escape pods to contain such info?

If not then the entire mission was a failure. This was a very important mission - to get intel on the most dangerous ship of their enemy.

What if no one survived? Then the intel would have definitely been lost thus making the entire mission a complete failure of epic proportions. And don't forget, they lost a valuable ship as well. It seems there are not many of those types (I only know of 2 - the valiant and the defiant)

As for Sisko, he should have pointed out that the mere question "where are you from?" would not send a real Starfleet officer on an emotional bender. This proves that she is either not ready or not qualified for such a mission. SHe should have been relieved of duty on the spot.

ALso, dropping his dads name should have put some sense into some of the cadets. Part of being a good officer (or a good person - at least according to Socrates) is knowing your limits as well as your strengths. Being a good captain involves not going on suicide missions unless there is no other choice.

As the girl at the end gave her opinion that it was 'they' who failed the captain and not the other way around, I disagreed with this until I realized that it was true in the sense that someone should have relieved him of command. This was their failure.
Dropping Sisko's name did nothing but make those cadets want to prove themselves more. Jake wanted to make them see reason, but it backfired spectacularly. Part of the reason for this is Jake was speaking to a bunch of kids who have had praise and sunshine blown up their asses for the better part of close to four years. He wasn't talking to rational people with a decent amount of objectivity and life experience.

As for Dorian being relieved on the spot for her emotional reaction to talking about home... I would say that is a bit harsh. I agree with your point about her possibly being too young for such a mission, but she is also on a ship commanded by essentially, a tyrant, albeit one who doesn't realize he's being one. Watters didn't have the leadership skills or experience to deal with an essential aspect of command and believe it or not, that is people skills.

Dorian's homesickness was normal. Bottling it up was not. And Watters handled the whole thing poorly.
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