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Old March 13 2013, 05:15 AM   #122
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Killing Pike won't enhance the plot one bit.

It would be a pointless death just because the writers want some...thing dramatic and sad and to push the hero into action.
If it's something dramatic and sad that pushed the hero into action, then it wouldn't be pointless.
It shouldn't have to take the death of any character to motivate Kirk just because he gets one knock-down/demotion, we see him sitting in a bar drunk needing another pep talk at least that is the image shown in the newest trailer. He's not a teenager anymore.
I didn't say it should. I was just going by your scenario and saying that if his death "pushed the hero into action," as you say, it would by its very nature not be pointless then.

The character Pike is one of my favourites so understandably I don't want him killed.

It's like the writers saying let's just kill off a secondary character..why? It's more of a bold move to kill one of the main ones but that won't happen.
I understand completely not wanting him to die. Bruce Greenwood is a great actor who brings a lot of gravitas to the film, and Pike is a great character and mentor to Kirk. He will be missed.

But doesn't that kind of throw your next comment out the window? While Pike is "secondary" in terms of not being one of the main TOS crew, he was arguably as important or even a more important part of the first film than some of the reimagined TOS crew were, and looks to be an integral part of the first part of this second film as well. So, he's not some cheap throwaway secondary character whose death we won't care about. His death will have meaning to both the characters (especially Kirk) and the audience.
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