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Old March 9 2013, 08:39 AM   #100
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Re: Friction at DC

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[What's your point? If they did something that offended a large enough people who would choose to boycott it, cause what, it would be in their best financial interests to change.
Large enough? If DC had to rely on an alleged 16,000 people for the survival of any of their titles, the company would fold. You are allowing your sociopolitical leaning make this into a cause it--apparently--is not.
16,000 is about half of a typical audience for a comic book sold by DC. So, I'm using math, not my sociopolitical views. If you're selling something and HALF of your potential audience is being vocal about not buying it, chances are there are more who won't buy as well.


DC is not threatened by this.
The boycott isn't about bringing down DC. DC is not being threatened. ONE comic book is being boycotted. So, your point is... pointless...


So, you watch things you might get offended by, what is your point? That you're the bigger person? Or MAYBE it's because SNL doesn't REALLY go all that far? Even in its Satire?
It means as a functioning adult, you should be able to exercise the choice to avoid content you do not like, or content produced by people with views you disagree with.
Sure. That's an option. And just let things like racism and homophobia continue. But, then, it's not really your problem, so who cares, right?

Some people DO care. Some people like to try and make the world a better place. You are free to participate or not.

A far different situation than trying to force those creating and/or producing content to influence hiring decisions (or content) because you cannot stand a view of one of the employees.
The company might not shelve the story. It's up to them. It's called the Free Market. Why shouldn't the market be able to speak to the producers?


In other words, change the channel, let your fingers skip over a comic on the rack, etc.
That's an option. Sure. It means being disengaged from the world. It means not trying to do anything to make the world more free, more fair. But, you are free to decide how want to participate in the world.



I would argue his PUBLIC advocacy of Straight only marriage DOES damage their brand.
You will need to prove this.
Really? Ok, then you prove the opposite. That his advocacy of bigotry reflects WELL on DC.

Just ask yourself, if I was a businessman, would I want a bigot representing my product? Would I want a bigot who actively pursues limiting the rights of other Americans representing my product?


Yes, I know the media would have the world believe "everyone" supports same sex marriage,
Over 50 percent of Americans support gay marriage. That's not media, that's math. I know reality challenges your conceptions of what you think Americans believe... but... it'll be ok.


but if we take actual events on a case by case basis--away from the media generalizing, the OSC response is so tepid that it would suggest--strongly--the opposite: few care at all, and it is not going to damage the DC brand to any significant degree.
The market of ACTUAL comic book buyers is SO small. That, again, 16,000 is a significant number.


The signatures could grow to 30,000 tomorrow, but that too, is not a threat to DC Comics (or the parent company), and no one is taking to the streets over this.
No. No one is. But, I don't think that's the expectation of the boycotters. It's a lovely straw man though.


To be frank, the comic publishing world recieved more heat from the death of a fictional character (Superman) than this issue.

Shouldn't that be reason enough to get rid of him?
Do you even hear yourself? Would you agrue the same if a gay writer's personal views offended 16,000 readers enough to complain for his removal?
I do hear myself. Do you hear yourself? Yes. I would. I would continue to argue that it's fully in their right to do that. Would I agree with them? No. Would I hope DC would stand by their writer who ISN'T a bigot? Yes, I would hope they would. But... it would be the companies choice.

I didn't get my panties in a twist when the "Million" Moms tried to protest JC Penny's hiring of Ellen. Let them. Do YOU get upset with the Million Moms? Are YOU consistent in your thinking?
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