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Old March 8 2013, 04:33 AM   #48
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Re: Cardassian society - enforcement or preference?

Nightdiamond wrote: View Post
The Roman and Greek republics were democracies but the wealthy controlled everything and legalized things like seizing individual lands and slavery.
We seem to be operating with different definitions of "democracy." For my money, you're not a democracy unless every adult gets a vote. So, for instance, the United States was not a democracy until the Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965; prior to that, either women or minorities or both (at varying points, it would be one or the other) were disenfranchised.

So, no, I don't think it's fair to call ancient Athens a democracy, even if that's what it called itself. It wasn't rule by the people; it was rule by a certain segment of the male population.

I wouldn't trade the Fed's democracy for anything, but it's still interesting to point out. Democracy has to be tweaked a lot in order to truly work.
I think we're all aware of the fact that democracies can be flawed and can have human rights abuses; indeed, that's why liberal democracy is preferable to illiberal democracy.

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If future people don't like the situation, they can change it.
Well, no, they can't -- that's why it's called a dictatorship, because they don't get a choice!

That's why democratic mandates come with expiration dates.
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