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Old March 7 2013, 04:40 AM   #805
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Re: teacake does Stargate: punch it

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Also, I know this was some belief vs faith deal
Which IMO, this episode fails at. It tries to tell the classic story of religious fanatics intrepreting their holy words as an excuse to brutalize their unbelieving enemies, even though there is nothing in said holy text condoning murdering and being nasty. Indeed, Tomin seems conflicted when the Prior uses the passage as about the line in the sand to justify eradicating the village, which sickens him to think the Prior can pervert the good words of the gods as an excuse to do something so horrible.

That's all well and good and they're obviously making commentary on similar incidents on Earth where great tragedies have ocurred due to religious fanatics re-interpreting their teachings. But it has no real relevance here. We know the Ori are evil and would condone the brutal murder of inoccents who don't believe in them. It just so happens the Book of Origin is worded in a way that leaves things open to intrepretation.
I'm not sure what you mean. From the perspective of Tomin or any modern day monotheists it's the same situation, the only difference being that his "Gods" actually exist. The Ori aren't 'evil', they actually started out with the best intentions according to Merlin, which is of course when Origin would have been created.

Well, then we get into the whole debate of how do you define "evil?" Obviously, the Ori don't think of themselves as evil, and the Priors are responsible for justifying their actions as the necessary will of the gods and so on.

But the Ori are evil, or at the very least villainous. They essentially planets, whole galaxies, and force the people they conquer to worship them as gods and leach of their life force as a means of staying alive, or however that works with their power coming from their worshippers. Those who don't submit are to be executed, in fact the Ori themselves rewarded the Village Administrator in S9 for executing the people Daniel and Vala stone swapped into by making him a Prior.

Maybe they did have the best of intentions starting off, but these actions are still evil. And let's be honest, though Tomin seems to believe the Book of Origin condemns destroying the village, if the Ori themselves were aware of it, they'd have no problems and would probably insist on it. Making the whole message of this episode a rather empty one.
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