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Old February 26 2013, 01:25 AM   #175
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Re: Section 31...

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I'm astonished at the idea that the presence of a telepathic link among individuals would necessarily eliminate disagreement, dissent, the accumulation of greater power in the hands of some individuals rather than others, or simple differences in mental capacities to process (and therefore bear responsibility for) concepts and actions. Especially since we've seen indications of all of these within Founder society canonically.
I submit that, while disagreement can exist in the Great Link, membership in the Link means that all changelings are responsible for the decisions that the Link makes. A "civilian" would be able to say they aren't responsible for or involved in the decisions made, but in the Link no changeling can legitimately claim they're not involved with or responsible for the decisions. They might not agree with the final decision, but disagreeing doesn't make them "civilians". That's like saying a general who disagrees with his superiors is a civilian.
By that logic, anyone who votes in a democracy is also equally responsible for what the government does -- even if their preferred candidate lost, or even if they disagree with subsequent government decisions.

I'm particularly puzzled by the idea that a Founder who disagrees with the rest of the link on a given policy but is overruled bears equal responsibility for that policy. You compare the link to the military chain of command, but it looks more like a general election to me.

But let's assume that all Founders are, in fact, pretty much the same. That they are all party to and accede to the decisions made in the Dominion's name. That they are all, in essence, guilty.

So what?

Their species and their culture have a right to exist. Period. Nothing invalidates that. Ever.
Do they have the right to exist at the expense of the freedom of the Alpha Quadrant?
False choice; no such dilemma exists. The freedom of the Alpha Quadrant can be secured without exterminating the Founders.

Presumably the same thing it means among us -- the decision to express and inhabit a certain set of traits culturally assigned to one biological sex or another. One need not have a sex to have a gender; just ask the many individuals in real life whose gender identity expression differs from their biological sex.
It's more likely that gender doesn't mean anything among changelings, and the individual changelings just mimic gender when in humanoid form.
Either way, it's a choice to express certain traits associated with biological sex, and therefore it is linguistically sensible -- and appropriate -- to use the gender a given Founder has chosen to express when referring to that Founder.

So how come Section 31 didn't use that leverage to get the Dominion to surrender long before the Battle of Cardassia?
I don't know. Maybe the S31 leadership, if such a thing exists, hadn't decided on the disposition of the cure.
Then why try to force Bashir to keep from developing a cure? Why try to stop him from distributing a cure when they believed he'd developed one?
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