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Old February 15 2013, 05:06 AM   #75
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Re: The Pope

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
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By Catholic Church criteria, Ratzinger did not live up to their own standards.
Nobody's perfect.

And besides, at the time, he was just a kid. He hadn't even gone into seminary yet. There were no standards he could have been expected to live up to.

Like I said, we have no right to expect anyone to die. For example: If somebody comes into your place of work with the intent to rob you, you could fight back - in which case the robber would probably kill you. But if you choose to cooperate so that they, you know, WON'T kill you, that is just a normal human instinct - to want to live. Everybody has it.
Having been in, you know, actual combat where people were trying to kill us... we chose to stand and fight, rather than follow "just a normal human instinct - to want to live".

Definition of martyr: here, here, here and here.
1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
- Jesus, crucified.
- Paul, crucified upside down, because he felt unworthy to die the same death as Jesus Christ.
- John, cousin to Jesus, beheaded for preaching against Herod's incestuous relationship.
Many, many more examples can be found throughout Christian history, as well as, those of other faiths.

We must agree to disagree on this issue.
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