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Old February 13 2013, 01:02 AM   #112
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Re: Uhura replacing McCoy/Bones?

The Mirrorball Man wrote: View Post
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To quote the great John McEnroe: "You CAN NOT be serious!" Now I have heard it said the two McCoys are rather similar. They must be who you are thinking of.
No, it's not. What aspects of the old Uhura were left out, in your opinion?
Well we could start with professionalism, a certain humility and yes, just plain "niceness".

But its more a matter of the undesirable character traits that were put in. Some have been mentioned by Bry_Sinclair. I would include his suggestions of "abrasive, snooty, cold" as well as self-centred and manipulative (have I mentioned "entitled" and full of her own importance?). You could probably add some yourself but I doubt anyone would suggest the two Uhuras are remotely similar characters in their behaviour or as people.

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... Besides, if you start by letting people choose their own favourite billets (no matter how "entitled" and full of their own importance they are), where will it end?
It will end wherever the filmmakers say.
Thanks for putting my mind at ease. I was a bit worried it could end with a cadet still under training and on his first mission, being handed command of a modern flagship because he happened to get lucky, or something.

There are many aspects of the Trek movie that I consider ripe for criticism but the idea that it is any less "realistic" in it's depiction of military-like protocols than any previous iteration of Trek is rather laughable.
Actually I wasn't comparing it to previous Trek. But even if you feel comfortable rolling out the "old trek was almost as bad at times" excuse (and assuming it's justified), are you sure the examples under discussion might not have been a good place to improve matters a tad? That said, I agree it's more the fact it doesn't make anyone involved look too good, rather than a potential military protocol problem, that is of most concern.

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Uhura's argument was this:

"Was I not your best student?"
"Am I not the best comm officer here today?"
"Then why the fuck aren't I assigned to the best ship?"

It's a valid point, and hardly blackmail. Spock erred on the side of caution and Uhura took issue with that. I found that far more endearing than the blank sheet that is old Uhura.
Despite that I think most people managed to form an opinion of the type of person old Uhura was. To me, nuUhura isn't that type.

And valid in what way?

For all Uhura knew, the ship she was assigned to may not have had a communications officer at all at that point and needed the best trainee available. That wouldn't have been a slight on her abilities, quite the reverse. And, once again, it should have been seen as a temporary assignment for the duration of the emergency. That was not a time to be throwing hissy fits. Such behaviour sure didn't endear her to me. Nor is that just due to not liking the movie. I have no problem with half the main characters (Spock is 50/50 ).

On the other hand perhaps respectfully asking a question might have been more acceptable, instead of the way she did it. Clearly Spock was right about his conflict of interest concerns when it came to the way they interacted. Unless she was like that with all her superior officers!
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