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Old January 30 2013, 10:49 AM   #30
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Re: Theory on money in the 24th century

Edit_XYZ wrote: View Post

No they don't.
You can't create an exact copy of quantum information under any circumstances without destroying the original (google no cloning theorem).

You do not seem to understand how informationally complex living systems are.
Not according to Riker and Data when they talk about replicators and transporters;.

DATA: Much of it is real, sir. If the transporters can convert our bodies to an energy beam, then back to the original pattern again.....

RIKER: Yes, of course. And these rocks and vegetation have much simpler patterns.
And yet these are the same types that claim a food product from the replicator doesn't taste the same as the original-or that the replicator can't recreate certain items.

There's a HUGE difference between the bare ingredients and a living tissue made of them.
That's just thing. the main goal we're going for is to replicate a steak that taste like the real thing, which some characters in the Trek universe claim the replicators can't do.

Why not scan an actual steak cut from a muscle? True, it's not a living muscle, it's not simple either, but the show itself suggests It can be done--it should be done on a regular basis.

Photonic wrote: View Post

Transporters are stated on many occasions to borrow from this idea , converting mass to energy, and converting energy back into mass.

It is also clearly stated several times in canon and in the manuals replicators DO function based on transporter technology. They use raw materials, and using transporter technology reengineer it on a nano scale. "flesh from a cow" has quantifiable properties, it has atoms in certain locations. These can be duplicated if you have the scanning resolution ...and ....a transporter.
Exactly- The show itself confirms it, and there are probably a gazillion other statements about it.

RIKER: You've seen something as fresh and tasty as living meat, but inorganically materialized out of patterns used by our transporters.
Riker connects transporters, replication and the product's qualities all together.

T'Girl wrote: View Post
Why take the enormous and
unnecessary step of making a down to the subatomic level duplicate egg? What purpose would it serve?
Supposedly, one reason why people do strange things for money in the 24th century when they have replicators is--the real thing tastes, feels, looks so much better.

And the replicators supposedly can't make it like the original.

So it has more value, and people work, otherwise--some of it doesn't make any since when you see jobs people are doing that they hate and stresses them out, but they need the money..

Kassidy Yates works a grueling schedule, and later risks going to prison but it looks like shes does it because she likes money and needs it, even though she knows what a replicator is.
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