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Old January 25 2013, 04:32 AM   #13
blssdwlf
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Re: Dilithium Crystals and Nuclear Fusion - A Star Trek Reunion Story?

Timo wrote: View Post
This is, after all, the only time batteries might be directly associated with propulsion in Star Trek...
Well, in addition to "Mudd's Women" using batteries to make and hold orbit, there is also "The Naked Time" where Scotty jury rigs power from presumably the batteries to allow the helm to stabilize the fall. At that time, the engines were shut completely down.

Timo wrote: View Post
As for the deeper meaning of "energizer", I'd go for the invigoration aspect. In "The Alternative Factor", the energizers are needed to restore dilithium crystals to working order after they are drained. This sounds like a very transient thing, a rare, emergency "vitamin shot" involving a special piece of machinery. After the "vitamin shot" is over, the crystals apparently are to be taken out of the machinery and will need no further energizing; they have returned to their normal state of not being drained.
The problem with the idea of it being a special machine that only does the re-amplification is the timing. If they are to be taken out of the machinery when the "vitamin shot" is complete, why are they in the machinery for the entire episode when the process was complete 1/3rd way into the episode?

From "The Alternative Factor" - they're re-amped before the Lazari steal them.
MASTERS: I know what you mean. Re-amplification finished on the dilithium crystals?
ENGINEER: Yes. Ready and waiting.
Timo wrote: View Post
Doesn't sound that they would be the main energy source (or the main energy storage medium) of the ship, be they energized or not. Energy is still available, and is being pumped into the crystals from the energizer - clearly, it's not a case of the ship having lost its fundamental stores of energy.
That's depends on what kind of load the ship's power system is under and how the crystals are removed, IMHO.

1. In "Mudd's Women", the ship is at or above full power levels causing the crystals to *burn* out which is noticeable on the ship as the circuit fail-over to the remaining crystal circuit(s).
2. In "The Paradise Syndrome" the ship is at full power, we see the removal of one crystal paddle was noticeable on the ship.
3. But, in "The Alternative Factor", the ship wasn't under any major load while orbiting the planet so the orderly removal (not burnout) of some or all of the crystals would not and should not be noticeable, IMO.

Timo wrote: View Post
But properly energized dilithium crystals appear vital for getting the energy from its mysterious stores into the various applications, here and in ST2:TWoK.
Do you think they had time to properly energize or amplify the crystal necklace used in "Elaan of Troyius"?

Timo wrote: View Post
The procedure in "The Alternative Factor" shows that the energies of "energizing" are just a fraction of the energies actually in storage. The situation appears analogous to that of transistors, then: small energies control large energies. And having dilithium as the "semiconductor gate" of a transistor-analogue is not all that different from what dilithium does in TNG and ENT.
Or alternatively, the crystals hold or buffer more energy than the power source itself since the bypass circuits to go around damaged crystals do not appear to be able to provide the same amount of energy that the crystals can.

If we look at the BOP in "TVH" they were in danger of losing the crystals but still having an undamaged energizer bypass to it's power sources would still allow it to fly (but not break orbit). In "Mudd's Women", the loss of the crystal circuits doesn't mean the loss of the matter-antimatter engines but the loss of the bypass circuits effectively meant no M-AM power. If she had her bypass circuits, she'd probably still have some warp capability although not as fast, IMHO.

Which I think is a difference TOS has between ENT/TNG. In TOS, you can bypass the crystals and still have some warp power. But in ENT and TNG you cannot.
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